Hello All,

I'm very happy that Friedman and McKibben are doing what they're doing.

Mckibben is a more thoughtful person and a better writer

but Friedman has the columnists knack for popularizing ideas.

It's unfortunate that Friedman was so misguided on the Iraq war

and has converted so late towards any kind of environmental awareness.

I do appreciate McKibben's understanding of the necessity for human's relationship with nature to change.

Both of their websites are informative:

http://www.thomaslfriedman.com/

http://www.billmckibben.com/

I recommend reading Bill McKibben's November 2008 review of Thomas Friedman's "Hot Flat And Crowded"

in the New York Review of Books:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/22027

And Elizabeth Kolbert's interview with Friedman is very good:

http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2071

And for further interest and fun read:

And Naomi Klein on Friedman:

http://www.naomiklein.org/articles/2004/03/outsourcing-friedman

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070702/klein

Jonathan Reich